Semifonte, the lost city   121461
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1 Mopnte Spigolino, 1827m
3 Corno alle Scale, 1945m
4 Lucardo
5 Castello di Santa Maria Novella
6 Marcialla
7 Tavernelle Val di Pesa
8 Pratomagno, 1592m
9 Monte San Michele, 892m
11 Barberino d'Elsa
12 Petrognano
13 Monte Amiata, 1738m


Location: Semifonte      by: Giuseppe Marzulli
Area: Italy      Date: 8 February 2022

The vineyard that can be seen in the panorama (we are in the Chianti area) is the place where the city of Semifonte was located, halfway between Florence and Siena.

Semifonte was a fortified city, which at the end of the 12th century became a fierce opponent of Florence.

The castle first and then the city were founded, around 1177, by Count Alberto IV of Prato, becoming, in short, one of the most powerful centers of the Valdelsa, as well as an imperial stronghold in the area.

The emergence of Semifonte was immediately frowned upon by Florence which opposed it in every way and managed to defeat it in the space of twenty years. In 1202, Semifonte, after a siege begun in 1198, was defeated, conquered and immediately razed to the ground by the troops of Florence, which with this intended to give an example to other centers competing with it.

The city was not only razed to the ground, it was even dismantled piece by piece. Even the memory of Semifonte had to disappear.

After the work of destruction, Florence decreed that no building could ever be built on that hill. This prohibition has, in fact, been respected until today, with the exception of the Chapel of San Michele, erected in 1597 on the top of the hill.


The sticks for the wine are not really pretty and they dominate the pano. But that's reality. Welcome back!
LG Jörg
2022/02/10 20:28 , Jörg Nitz
There is a specific reason to see that area in the foreground.
It is not just any place, but a very special place.
2022/02/10 20:41 , Giuseppe Marzulli
A me par di vedere sullo sfondo: Giovo-Rondinaio, Pratomagno e Amiata... ci sarebbero sufficienti elementi per una risoluzione puramente geometrica del problema, ma lungi da me fare questo.
A occhio direi da qualche parte in zona Sant'Ermo - Lari - Casciana, ma da troppo tempo manco da quelle contrade per entrare in un simile grado di dettaglio!
2022/02/10 21:11 , Pedrotti Alberto
In the year 1202 something happened that changed this place forever.
But what?
2022/02/10 21:54 , Giuseppe Marzulli
I could counter your riddle with a similar motif, but my crusing radius is limited in Italy which would make it much easier.
Has it to do with HRE (Holy Roman Empire)? ectl. IV th Crusade ?
2022/02/11 15:24 , Hans-Jürgen Bayer
There is a correlation with the Holy Roman Empire. This was Ghibelline territory and was on the side of the emperor.
But there were very powerful neighbors who were against the emperor.
However, in medieval Tuscany they were often only pretexts and the rivalries were mainly of an economic and commercial nature.
2022/02/11 16:47 , Giuseppe Marzulli
A good example of "Damnatio memoriae". BR Jan.
2022/02/12 15:07 , Jan Lindgaard Rasmussen
You're right. It is an excellent example of "Damnatio memoriae".
I don't remember when we talked about "Damnatio memoriae".
2022/02/12 19:19 , Giuseppe Marzulli
"Cancel culture" sozusagen.
I remember a discussion about something similar where you made a certain annotation. Forgot which or whose panorama it was.
2022/02/12 20:46 , Hans-Jürgen Bayer
Ho dei rigurgiti umanistici:
"che si sarebbe volto a Simifonti,
là dove andava l'avolo alla cerca"
Ora voglio andare a dormire, ma prossimamente farò ricerche...
2022/02/12 22:10 , Pedrotti Alberto
Sì, è come dici. Semifonte è citata da Dante nel XVI Canto del Paradiso.
Le riflessioni che Dante fa nel Canto XVI del Paradiso oggi sarebbero considerate quanto di più politicamente scorretto possibile.
Ma Dante se ne fregava del politicamente corretto e, più modestamente, anche io.
2022/02/12 23:10 , Giuseppe Marzulli
Very interesting. Unfortunately, I currently don't find time for riddles - too much work. But better times will come. Cheers, Martin
2022/02/15 20:05 , Martin Kraus

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