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Location: Timios Stavros (2456 m)      by: Pedrotti Alberto
Area: Greece      Date: 03-08-2014
A view of the highest summit of Crete.

Just for knowledge. The photos were taken turning around very carefully in a nearly Patagonian wind - actually, several attempts were needed to complete the 360° without being blown to the ground - which happening would be indeed harmful for the art of Nodal Point Conservation.

16 HF, Canon G1X, 37 mm equiv, f/5.6, 1/800 sec.
DPP + LR + Hugin 2011.4 && Udeuschle

Larger: http://bit.ly/2twSQbr
GPS track: http://www.wikiloc.com/wikiloc/view.do?id=7753937


I do not know where it is. I could assume that is the Adriatic Sea, but I'm not sure. The place is however fantastic.
2015/03/25 22:02 , Giuseppe Marzulli
I have never been up there and I'm not wise for most of the riddles here, but already on first glance this must be the peak of P... in the mountains of I... in the middle of the island of C...
A bit further down in the same mountains there is a large cave with mythological connections to the most important god Z... of ancient times.
Cheers, Martin
2015/03/25 22:14 , Martin Kraus
Giuseppe: yes, there is one sea, or better two.

Martin: It was indeed from the surroundings of the cave that I wanted to start the presentation of the site. However, the competing description is extremely complex (because very significant happenings took place in the vicinity) and this week I do not have time enough for such an undertaking...
Cheers, Alberto.

P.S.: since you understood everything, you can already google either "best hiking trails in C." or "wikiloc P." to get the outline of the ascent.
2015/03/25 22:23 , Pedrotti Alberto
An interesting documentation as we are used by you, but without Martins answer I would not have had any clue where it is.
2015/03/26 12:28 , Jens Vischer
Jens: Deine Stimme hier zu hören... das sagt mir nichts gut von dem Wetter in den Dolomiten. Vielleicht ist es gleich wie bei uns in der Valsugana - hier gibt es leider kein "It never rains in Patagonia"!
LG, Alberto.
2015/03/26 15:16 , Pedrotti Alberto
with your localisation when fully resolving the riddle I realised that this place has not two names, but three. Looking into Geman Wikipedia, I now understand that Timios Stavros is the chapel on the summit (for once, not Profitis Ilias...), Psiloritis is the modern Greek name of the mountain, and Ida the ancient Greek name. Anyone with a fourth name for the same place?
And is it maybe that the Cretans don't lie at all (as Epimenides claims), but just confuse the rest of the world with alternating names and truths?
Cheers, Martin
2015/03/26 15:44 , Martin Kraus
Psiloritis is the modern name for the old Oros Idi. I do not know why but, whenever you try to use the old name with Cretan mountaineers, they readily lead you to the modern one. Note that also for the Lefka Ori there is an alternative name, namely Madhara, but I never heard it in use. Timios Stavros, meaning "Holy Cross", is the name of the summit chapel, then taken on by the main summit itself. The second-highest summit still has a well recognized name, Agathias (www.panoramio.com/photo/76568575) but then, going down in height, you start to find summits with dubious name or with no name at all.
2015/03/26 16:11 , Pedrotti Alberto
I have to admit, that "C" and "Z" have not been enough information for me, for I was not sure, whether Cyprus or Crete are considered as home of "Z", who, I hope, is Zeus.
2015/03/26 23:07 , Arne Rönsch
The german tv-station SWR show these barren landscape last week in the series "Wanderlust". greetings Fried
2015/03/27 12:18 , Friedemann Dittrich
Fried: richtig, in Kreta erlebt man wirklich Wanderlust!
LG, Alberto.

PS: www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEIwXvqrkKA
2015/03/28 14:42 , Pedrotti Alberto
Toller Tiefblick aufs Meer!
2015/03/29 12:42 , Johannes Ha

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